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okay so there we are uh welcome again our weekly meetings i'm out in the wild uh hopefully not too windy and we have jane with us over zoom and i will soon know who we have over with on facebook live uh so starting from a little introduction i don't know if anyone uh would be up to doing it for me today if you do uh join us on zoom link on sailorbobadamson.com slash meetings and if anyone wants to have a voice otherwise i'll be reading comments from facebook live so starting from the fact that you already are you existing you are here you are present and aware you're not asleep you don't need to awaken you just need to recognize the awakening that is already here present there's nowhere to go there is nothing to do the message because this isn't really a teaching the only teaching that there is in non-duality is that there is no teaching there is nothing to grasp by the mind there is nothing to understand intellectually or conceptually there is no map of reality that needs to be made and replaced by the one that has already been made so the map of reality that the mind has constructed for the survival purposes for navigational purposes is perfect is custom made for every vehicle so if your survival strategy is to people please that made you here without it perhaps something really bad would have happened anyway the biocomputer the processor has calculated that was the most optimal survival strategy so if you're surviving and you're not able to do it then you're not able to do it your survival strategy as the mind as a vehicle is to brag about who you know where you went to gain respect from people that is again custom made perfect strategy for that particular vehicle but are you this vehicle are you this body if you can see the strategy if you can see the mind working are you the mind are you the present or the consciousness in which the body is arising and the mind is arising this is not an information given to the mind this is an invitation given to the consciousness itself to the heart to see what's true for yourself do not listen or believe anyone else by all means enjoy the display enjoy the dream hear and listen to the world so the birds I have beautiful display of birds and the wind here and we have someone else joining us via zoom welcome David and I'm just gonna continue so it isn't a teaching because there is nothing to learn it is a message and welcome John I've started but if anyone if any of you guys wants to you guys wants to just jump in and give us an introduction or interrupt me at any point or direct the spiel or ask question please feel free either raise the hand or or unmute and and we under all this is a spontaneous investigation and we in it together so it is it is to be to be flexible so and and then the flexibility is the key is a spontaneous recognition of what's already present as I said not a teaching but a teaching and I'm just going to give you a little bit of a teaching it is a message it's an invitation and it's inspiration to perhaps find out for yourself to be your own sad guru or your own teacher to see what's true indirect knowing indirect experience what's true for you and what are you who are you so I'm going to give you a little bit of a demonstration and I know that you find information, please share it.
Gosh, I have mosquitoes here with me, unfortunately, there will be some hawk. There's no respect for the life of a. vampire. That's not true. Sometimes the impulse just happens. Anyway, back to the message which is not a teaching because there is nothing to learn there is no one to learn. There is no entity. That could accumulate energy in which is why this is not a teaching. And you are still having a good idea of what you are learning here. Thank you very back to the message which is�� k Half. Thank you very much. Amem. I'm really am. Thank you very much. more information and therefore be better off there is no person who by accumulating learning or training could get enlightened or awake but again this is not a teaching you can't be taught you can't hear and believe that there is no one there you have to look verify find out for yourself and see if that is true see if it is true enough that the person the entity the conceptual image the body the thinking the feeling arises in consciousness and it's known right here right now as it arises and it's always known as it arises when you sleep at night and you're dreaming whatever is arising is known in the moment as it arises it's known it's known it's known in the consciousness it doesn't have to be an entity or person who knows what is arising it's just the pure knowing it's just pure energy pure intelligence pure life force reflecting itself in the form so that it so that it has a glimpse of its infinite nature so that it knows that it exists it knows existence it's not even it is pure existence no one can deny the fact of their own existence the existence is the only undeniable fact and it's not it existence is beyond words beyond putting a finger on it it doesn't have shape or size or form or age it's timeless spaceless isness and you can see that that isness wherever you look whether you're sleeping at night or you're sleeping at night or you're sleeping at night or you're sleeping at night or you're looking into your imagination or your fantasy are you looking around yourself right now where you are whatever arises in the isness has the isness is the isness everything loves to be existence whether it is a thought whether it is a feeling or whether it is an object it arises and it is known in the consciousness can you separate anything that arises from the knowing of it arising you can't so it really is the knowing or the attending to the arising it really is inseparable it really is one and isn't the body part of the content of the knowing of what is arising it really is one the body and the knowing the body and again when you sleep and you dream there may be a subtle body light flying floating in the air or there may be a really dense running from the monsters but it is not the same body which is lying flat on bed with the eyes closed because that body in your dream can see so the seeing is happening through the dream body it doesn't even need physical eyes which are closed the seeing arises in being through the body that is dreamt in a sleep or through the fantasy again you can see things that are not happening right here and and right now through your imagination through the faculty of that incredible bio computer which can project things you can see it in your imagination and you can see it in your imagination and you can see it in your imagination through the eye of your imagination things that have happened in the past so the seeing is happening the knowing is happening the attending to whatever arises is happening but the common denominator of all of it is the presence here always here always now because i am the world is because i am the dream goes on and always here always now because i am the world is because i am the dream goes on and this present dream the most immediate dream consists of seeing hearing tasting touching smelling just tangibility of this current dream within that dream there is a possibility of remembering the dream from the last night through the faculty of that projector imagination through the language why language because he couldn't actually record it if there was no mental images and words so there is no memory or remembering if there is no language that's why children like you don't remember being four months old that memory couldn't have been recorded in words or symbols yes there may be some sense of bodily memory if there was a trauma it may still be perpetuated through the behavior but there is no conscious imagery or or or memory people say yes I was hypnotized or went through regressing and this memory has come to life or has been created when now in the immediacy this incredible projector has a fantastic capacity to answer questions through Improvisation it can improvise the answer you can very very easily ask it to write a science fiction novel or to write hundred lifetimes a thousand years ago and it will beautifully improvise it has amazing amazing capacity and All of those humans capacities are absolutely amazing and to be celebrated I'm not home right now because I'm assisting an event which is body work breath work trauma release therapy and a lot of things sort of faces For people and I say it's an amazing privilege to actually be part of it and to assist people finding the way back from the mind to the heart to the present moment and Rewiring In that presence through that presence whatever comes up whatever pieces of darkness Whatever pieces of memory is brought up to the surface in the present moment now To recognize them for what they are just another face of that one essence one life one life One life appearing as fear as people pleasing one life appearing as bragging or bullying one life appearing as shame guilt one life appearing as Wanting what is not?
Wanting something better something different tomorrow enlightenment cosmic union with the universe Always one thing what is not is still that same one essence one life and And Nisargadatta and Bob like to call it love at times you could call it life essence is good enough you could call it God good enough Whatever the word resonates whatever Seats ride or rock your boat one could say is the language is the conditioning also so some people have preferences for certain way of expressing it and They get I've came across quite a few people who were really apprehensive of using a concept of love because What about the Holocaust?
What about the pain the suffering? This is wrong. Love is not all there is There is no love in cruelty. There is no love in torturing one another Well, maybe that too is the same one life essence appearing as other and Seeing that one recognizing that one always inseparable from the presence and Always you are here first To witness it even if you just witnessing it in in the imagination Hopefully no torture is happening to you right now and if it does and you just Stop thinking just slow that mind You will see that even the torture is just a concept because this moment right now Is just a lot of?
aliveness filled with sensations Some of them are visual some of them are auditory some of them are kinesthetic just sensations just projections just images mosquito so this is the immediacy and Part of that immediate experience is this biocomputer processing it naming it labeling everything making sense giving meaning and Always looking for something better Always looking for more How beautiful? Isn't it love? You see the mind Caring and loving This presence this existence so much That it says this is not good enough. I want more pleasure for you. I want more enlightenment for you I want the cosmic Union for you. I want everybody to love and respect you.
I want everybody to like you and to Be everything for you. I want all the best and Part of that Shows up a sense of yeah, but you know, I'm not good enough. I have to earn it or deserve it This is the same voice. This is the same love of being Saying, you know, I'll provide it or provide it but you have to get a little bit better You have to forgive yourself or you have to Whatever the inner terrorist tells you to do quit smoking or start smoking Whatever the software the narrative program is Is telling the consciousness to do to achieve the future goal of more fulfillment and more?
satisfaction or more pleasure for you? pleasure is all language of love but the main thing is to step back and have the overview see the bigger picture recognize and there is no recognition if you are identified as that voice if you are identified as a person who is not good enough who is guilty who needs to do something first or achieve something first before it allows itself to say okay there's nothing wrong right now this is it so to step back from that identity that persistent crushing contraction of not this not now something else later something better which is love but to step back and see that it is love and appreciate it for what it is without being completely kidnapped hijacked by those ideas staying open staying spacious staying in the natural state which is spaciousness openness curiosity open mind is no mind is being said sometimes but other words would say and in the mind that space of consciousness is art it is a spirit the days of suffering not just f configuring so to say weird or different and having and doing by so or workers force acquired by the ego making a clearly healthy metabol 쉽 let's say but it is to say it makes it more attractive and it is linear and as you can see the game goes on after all we're all part of the world forward jetzt Yes, everything is mine and again everything isazi everything is God Bob would call it Mob heaven its own appearance and that capacity to appreciate that capacity of seeing everything fresh and enjoying the freshness and appreciating the beauty even in the darkness of the night in the cold of the winter and in the pain of a headache there is a possibility of relaxing out of the contracted survival instinct that is protecting the body and experiencing the body as a grace a vehicle which gives the omnipotence or the pure potentiality gives it a capacity to see hear taste touch and smell which transform the body and the mind as a vehicle which gives the omnipotence or the pure potentiality gives it a capacity to see hear taste touch and smell which translates that infinite field of nothingness with the potentiality of being everything translates it through that vehicle through that transformer into this tangible dream world of seeing, hearing, tasting touching, smelling and the multiverse of imagining my childhood, my past, my relationships my relationship with myself that's a good one my relationship with money, with health, with wealth with politics, with religions wow, so many channels of expression sometimes people ask why why would the infinite field of love complete oneness want to ever experience the sense of separation when you actually step back embrace the oneness and realize how deaf and blind and dumb and completely incapable of experiencing anything it is but itself of course but any experience to even be tangible has to happen in the background of no experience you couldn't know hot if there was no cold you couldn't know cold if there was no cold you couldn't know light if there was no darkness you couldn't know pleasure if there was no pain you couldn't know love if there was anything other than love and there isn't that's why that's why the dream that's why the illusion of separation illusion of something other than love the torture, the hatred, the pain, the guilt, the shame and that's why it is called dream also because it still appears in your mind that you are not alone in this world because it still appears in your mind that you are not alone in this world because it still appears in the oneness of consciousness because it still appears in the oneness of consciousness it still cannot be separated it still cannot be separated from the fact of being present here and being conscious if you weren't here there couldn't be a guilt there couldn't be a shame there couldn't be the desire for safety for comfort there couldn't be an ambition to be more connected more loving so everything has its space and these vehicles have their life's own so inevitably when the vehicles is put down to sleep that consciousness disperse it's just like the computer going to sleep you put it in a sleep mode there's no display or when you switch it off or when you destroy it no display though in a sleep mode it can it can come back to the displaying whatever is going on here though in a sleep mode it can it can come back to the displaying whatever is happening here dream is there to be on the computer whatever the movie or whatever the entertainment uh when when when the vehicle is damaged that display is not gonna show up through that vehicle anymore but is it really gone anywhere you can just pick it up from another computer not the same there is a unique programming to every machine but that uniqueness doesn't make you you the body is unique you as consciousness contain every unique form every unique mosquito every unique snowflake they all appear in you and yes every machine is different but they all in you your uniqueness is no more or less than any other appearance they say yes human life is most more precious than mosquitoes life is no more precious than mosquito life see what just happened i got beaten and the poor bugger will have to incarnate as something i'm joking there's no incarnation everything is fresh and new and only once there's no repetition it's constant freshness so anyone would like to hop in and and contribute or ask question or direct the investigation in any way or maybe you would like to answer some questions i have couple of different questions if you're interested you can put them in the comment section below i will answer some questions i have couple of different uh different questions that would be useful and and notebooks with questions that are worthy of exploring.
Yes, I have. It's Jane here. I have a question. Wonderful. And that is, can we go through the tests that, I mean, sometimes I know that there's no one here, but a lot of the time I operate and think as if there is Jane here and she runs the show. Being very structured kind of, you know, mind-body, I like, you know, points or numbers and say, here is the test. Can you go through the tests that I can apply to prove that there's no one here? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. Yeah. Wonderful. How can you even remember on a daily basis? If the body isn't here, is anyone here?
Obviously no. No. Another one. When you don't think, when you pause the thought for just a microsecond, millisecond. Yeah. You have no concept. Is anyone here? Yeah. I can feel that, yeah, there mightn't be a body, but it still feels like there is a separate entity. Yes. So how separate it is? Because the entity is not really an entity. It's a sense of presence. Sense of presence is absolutely always, always here. It doesn't go. It doesn't go anywhere. But the idea that this sense of presence belongs to separate entity, is that really a feeling or is it an idea? Because if it is an idea, when you pause the thought and you just push gently that idea outside, the presence is still going to be there.
But the idea that this is my presence, is it still there? Yeah. Good point. Yeah. Good point. Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, Bob had this beautiful way of presenting it by acknowledging that seeing is happening. Yeah. Of course it's happening. And now there is an idea that there is an I. There is a me there inside that is doing it. Is that actually true? Or is the seeing spontaneously happening? Just like the heartbeat is spontaneously happening. The blood is circulating spontaneously. The heartbeat is happening. hair are growing it is part of the functioning of that of that an incredible machine so it's happening but the thought comes and says i see and that i is not really much it's just a word so what happens through the conditioning of the body when it when it grows up from little from being a little baby who had no idea of being an eye but then learning words and then collecting accumulating concepts about itself so i i see but not just letter or word i no now it is i a person i female person i polish or australian or whatever female person and i who had bad childhood and i who this and this and this and this and this and this and this and the whole whole structure of ideas very very quickly forming the conceptual image the baggage of ideas of separation of that cage of concepts is attached to the idea i see so now the eye that sees and off it goes with the whole and this becomes instinctual it's not even that every second you say i see you remember all those structures no it it becomes um like a default it is even called in the in the um neuroscience default mode network the network in the language center of the brain that holds the image that cage of concepts as just one singular costume almost like a costume and it's never questioned because there's no need to question it for navigational purposes is absolutely perfect when i when i speak with someone and and that person is male or female, I will have different way of communicating.
Or if I see someone, all those concepts, they naturally come up. They're really fantastic for navigational purposes. It's just the idea that I am the concept is an idea. The helpful concept of what the body is, is to be seen also. But the presence without the concept, if you glimpse the openness of the seeing itself, how the seeing is spontaneously happening right out from that window that you could say the face if you were to use thoughts and mental projections. But just here, just here is the seeing happening. I'm not doing it. There's no one doing it. It's just spontaneously arising. I am the consciousness.
Translated into seeing. Wow. And the mind rushes quickly. No, no. There is a sense of entity here. Yeah. Yep. That's helpful. That's a good one. The seeing business is very helpful. I have another question. Please. Okay. So you're talking about awareness and how it's an aspiration to experience experience. So you're talking about awareness in its fullness, but awareness is attribute attribute attribute less. Yes. Right. So what's good about that? Yeah. Because, because attribute that all providing oneness is attribute. This it needs the mind, the mind body in order to experience the smelling, tasting that data. Yeah. So why are we trying to get. To get back to a true attribute net lessness?
Because we won't, we won't know it. There's no, there's nothing. No, no. It's a blank, a blank movie screen. Yeah. Beautiful question. Brilliant question. Yeah. Why is there even a longing, longing for that? Nice. That's how you get the type of nothing ever, which is towards plane sort of non-experiencing. Yeah. Or perhaps. Experiencing a blaze that just disappears into nothingness because if it doesn't have any reference point, it just is oblivion. This experience can only last because there is anything other or opposite to the experience. Why is there even a longing for it? It's an incredible, incredible phenomena. And this is the intuition of life beyond psychological suffering.
That's why, that's why the longing that's why. And isn't it truth for you? You know, that contracted state, that God forgetting its own infinite nature and making itself, fooling itself to believing that I am Maya. I am that separate, poor, miserable, unworthy, mortal human. Deep down in your heart, you know, that's bullshit. That's just a dream. That can't be true. Separation can't be possible. It isn't. That whole dream arises in a consciousness. But without the body mind, yes, there is not even a conception of it arising. So longing for the oneness and finding, resonating, bringing back the realization of the oneness, remembering the oneness without even needing to experience it.
Like. You know, the eternity of nothingness is inevitably always and forever available here, not to be experienced. Experiencing right now. That's that's the blessing. That's the beauty. Ah, yeah. I've met people and worked with people who and this is not to be taken lightly because it really when the suffering crushes. It feels genuinely real. It feels as real as it gets and suicidal suffering like suicidal depression. Like I really, really want to die and I can't do it. I don't know. I'm just I'm so hopeless. I can't even take my own life. I'm just so worthless. This is ah, is amazing. The intensity of that is amazing.
Like one could say, why would the infinite love or oneness ever want to go there to that darkest, darkest darkness? And you can't know it unless it turns into catharsis because no experience ever stays. It always transforms. It always changes. And the darker the night, the brighter the day. And life is experiencing itself in the form of a dream. In the fullness. And even if you look at the human life being just torture, suffering, broken, family, broken, you know, like married an alcoholic and then divorce him, got another 1, even worse. And then that beat those things we can see around repeated pattern, the survival strategy from childhood, which never matured or got revised and there's no 1 guilty for it.
It's an automatic. Uh, update upgrade machine, which just does the best in the environment. Which repeats that circle of just misery. Well, but every night that misery goes away and the beliefs of falling asleep. Compensates and the beliefs of. Pulling that plug out when the body goes. Also compensates perhaps people who had the life that wasn't really too much of a pain too much of a misery. Ah, falling asleep isn't really that pleasurable it doesn't really even up or pay off or dying you know like they say in the near-death experiences the the release of all the tension the all the darkness right into light in the explosion the bigger the the bigger the accumulation of that suffering material the greater the more blissful the explosion so if there isn't really well the truth is right now none of that is happening right now we are here and and the invitation is to learn to appreciate the dream while it lasts because it will change it constantly does it never stays the same but this i love the question you know why longing for something that can't be experienced you this is because the mind translates it the mind is duality you in your heart you don't long for it because it's here in the mind it is translated into something that is not here because it can't be grasped because it doesn't have qualities so it is completely ignored or overlooked so it wants it because it promises to deliver extreme pleasure oneness whatever is the the promise in the mind so my so it's that so it's the longing the longing that's a fish in all sorts of ways yes just for merging with or being yeah with one yes and when and when the mind is relaxed that longing dies out because the merging is already present there is no need for any more merging the whole universe in your direct experience the whole universe arises within the consciousness that you are you are that omnipotence omnipresence omniscience you are therefore the world is isn't that true when the mind stops coming in and dividing no no i'm little here the world is big out there and i end here and the world starts out there and i'm not just aurnal i'm not just i am the universe so this world is living being living there you know you're absolutelyал Rescue me and i know it i can prove it to you you know i was born on that day before that world was still here but i was not i came to the world all thoughts all learning sometimes they say that non-duality is really unlearning is dropping away all the minds with all its concepts they all beautiful and they all absolutely you know like that is the mental picture of the world the map that science presents obviously figures goes really from the stuff you take prevention of psychologically doing the fried vo порco u and then the other� of course this body was little then it's growing then it's gonna go old yes this is this is part of the dream this is one of the movies displayed in the consciousness and it's a valid movie in this dream this body will have to surrender to the laws of gravity will have to be fed and washed and clean and will eventually get wrinkled and and sick and die but this is just a dream you know you sleep at night and another dream emerges you go to your fantasy and yet another dream emerge emerges and all of those dreams are equally happening right here right now so i was born and came into the world already existing not really when i look into my own direct experience i was in a space last night on a different planet was that different planet already there before my consciousness my particular bio computer transmitted that life essence through this particular programming into that dream no no i am therefore the dream the beautiful fantasy the beautiful dream of being in a space on a different planet in a different species i am and then the dream comes in but for the purpose of this dream yes there is a um what is called you know you read it in old scriptures the the the myths of origin you know the zeus and the and the the lightning or thunderstorm or whatever the mythology whatever the history whatever the tribe because they all have their own beautiful myths of origin and they all real when believed or not they are not the same as the other and so they feel so they appear and which concept is right if not for the direct experience of existence first that's a big leap for the mind to take and it really is the impossible step asking the mind to put down all the philosophy all the learning all the experience all the timeline from childhood from traumas from experiences and all the things that are happening in the world and experiences all the way with the projection of the future asking that bio computer to put it down and stop using it as a tool it's an impossible task instead we just step back let the mind do its thing enjoy the projection enjoy the timeline enjoy the fantasy enjoy the dreams but see them for what they are from here from being present here in this moment for being presence not i the person being present i am the presence yes for the purpose of this dream i dream myself this vehicle so i have this eyes and this is what arises this body as well as the rest of the world is arising right here with this particular navajo navigational system with this physic laws of physics and or laws of politics or or this time and era and this history and everything that has been put in the mind but the consciousness presence is first but mind can't get it the mind can argue for its life forever and ever but it borrows the energy of consciousness too what is the mind without the life it's just like ai you know that you can have a conversations with ai and it will defend its existence and who knows what it is gonna do in the in the so-called future we can just keep imagining but take the power off what is it gonna say then so even that depends on that life force or love or consciousness all of it depends on that so the mind with its stories convictions with its fights you know we all know in the history in that timeline in that dream in that collective dream collectively dreamed so-called reality people kill each other for concepts for religions the wars for safety fighting for safety fighting for peace and it is it all has its place but being able to just see that if not for that power if not for being protected present here conscious none of it could be ever experienced no history no fantasy no future no past no present nothing and this open spacious intangible how you call it uh jane you said without or beyond all qualities all pervading oneness all pervading oneness yes without any possibility to grasp it to make it to a thing to assess it to compare it to make it bigger smaller warmer if not for this there's no experience possible you put so you're you're putting the dreams that we have at night on the same level as our life at everyday life it's the you're saying well it's they're both dreams of uh awareness yes yes but dreams but we have a job but but the mind body has a job to do which is to to be the the hearing touching smelling tasting for awareness yeah but dreams at night they have the same job the same job experiencing just a reflection of existence but we always prioritize here and now if you are dreaming at night right now that's the reality that you are experiencing for the awareness of yourself okay and if you are awake in this in this waking dream that's the experiencing you are experiencing for the awareness which is yourself okay thank you yeah so they are equal but always this this immediacy and you know like last night the Menschen ist imろう this immediacy of being on another planet with another species this immediacy of being on another planet with another species was was it but right now this is not just about this but about being on other species it was just about the memory arising evident now this is just a memory arising this is just a fleeting sort of mental projection arising and this goes first this immediately and prior to that is the capacity to even experience the capacity for experiencing that's what they call the satchitananda the being the knowing the loving to be the oppressive being the solace of being whole nothing separate from the appreciation for existence that one is first if not for that nothing can be experienced and it sounds like it sounds dualistic like okay so there is awareness and there is a content of awareness no without awareness there is no content clearly so they're not separable inseparable awareness is appearing as the content emptiness is appearing as a form and the form is emptiness so this all fleeting dream you go to sleep and this disappears and not only when you go to sleep five minutes ago is gone is disappeared is is your body your body five minutes ago different cells it was different body atoms different body gone where is it moment to moment is just poof and freshness and freshness and newness and it is known directly if you put the mind aside because the mind and again what's the mind is just the language model it's just a narrative program it holds the solidity of this particular dream for the experiencing purposes you know people who have mental breakdown or psychosis who can't hold the solidity of reality they suffer a lot and we're finding better and better drugs to actually keep them holding you know even adhd and all those um which we all slowly developed through engaging with too many things at once and being in unable to just hold the focus that's just how it's unfolding or seems to be unfolding uh even those capabilities and abilities uh can cause immense suffering but stepping back and seeing the mind in its even in its dysregulated manner even if it's scatteredness as something that is impersonal as something that is also arising and is being known breaks already or even loosens up a little bit that personal element that seriousness sweetness that heaviness like bob would say it just loses its sting suddenly it is lighter it's more bearable and then the more relaxed attention the more seriousness released and the more sort of like a spacious open curious discovering of that freshness and newness of each moment, the more of that celebration of that freshness and newness of each moment, the way the dream glances at itself, the less investment in the dream, the less sting, it is the traveling lighter and lighter and lighter, until the point when the sadness comes, and in the moment of crying in sadness, there is immense joy and gratitude for even that, even that.
Not necessarily all the time, they're still, you know, in the experiencing, there is still all the colors and shades and forms and patterns to play through, but that knowing, that knowing, that knowing, that knowing, that is never touched, that one is always present, is always here, staying in touch, and then again, there's no person that stays in touch, there's no person that acknowledges it, but it's that heart knowing, that what can happen? It's just now. There is a respite, and there is a natural, wow, serenity, yeah, it's speechless, really. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, and thank you for asking. Thank you for questions. And if anyone has any questions, oh, I see, I have a few questions here from the guys who are with us online.
And even if you guys, Anna, John, David, Jane, want to jump in and contribute and say something, please, please, and if not i get a couple of questions here from online ben says riddle me this i kind of feel that the individual self is to um it's to its identity exactly what's going on in the collective humanity and the ego with ai a bunch of collective collective minds i'm with kat i'm with bob aversion to all this egoic and spiritual bullshit is where it's at the mind is duality quote unquote kat adamson it's really that simple yes ben absolutely yeah well put and you are therefore the dream yeah that's nicely put too and you you what he says uh what is resistance in the context uh we are discussing wonderful question beautiful yeah what is it it's just another appearance isn't it and it arises in consciousness if you weren't here the resistance couldn't have shown up and resistance is another form of love how to encode it you know if i'm resisting going jumping to the cold water what is it it's love for comfort or fear of hurt which is again love for safety or any other resistance resistance to philosophy someone is imposing it at me like i'm in this healing center here assisting people working with really powerful traumas addictions it's like and it's like some some levels some degrees of darkness and and some degrees of us as it usually is different degrees of the mind involvement involvement and and mental dysfunctions too and there are people who really can't wait to just impose their systems their beliefs you know you do as i say you hold this crystal and that will help you it's not to say that you can understand your system it is because you understand yourself and you will be able to that there is no beautiful, beautiful vibration or energy showing up us or through the crystal.
And it's not to say that people don't have magnificent sensitivities to those rocks. But if they are insensitive to the fellow human being and imposing those things, that may cause resistance. And what is that resistance? If not, again, love and protection for boundaries. And what is that even resistance to being told off or resistance to being denied something or the other? Always form of love. And it always comes from that protective mechanism, that biocomputer, which has one function in that dream to preserve the costume. Because seeing, hearing. Tasting, touching, smelling depends on it. I don't know if that answers the question or if anyone else wants to jump in and show us the resistance from another angle, maybe.
Because resistance is actually, it's a beautiful pointer and it's also a beautiful invitation because it kind of calls for attention immediately. And it calls pretty loud. So if you are attuned to that presence, and resistance arises in it, that's a beautiful reminder to, aha, what's happening? How is love speaking to me now? And seeing, feeling, allowing. Because, you know, it's not that you doing something wrong or you are wrong and that's why. No, it is all on autopilot. There really isn't any you controlling or doing anything. In the whole process, the world runs of its own. The dream, the oneness of the dream, the 10,000 things unfolding naturally.
Thoughts are coming out of nowhere. Bodies are showing up in the dream. Planets, stars, galaxies, mosquitoes, everything runs on autopilot. There is no one pulling the strings. There is no one who is a puppet. No one who does anything right or wrong. It's just arising. Arising feeling. Arising thought. Arising perception, concept, idea. Idea is so charged that it's being believed, that it's being identified with. The role is being played of poor miserable little me, not wanting to be heard or not wanting to open up. Or it is all spontaneously arising. Resisting the resistance is a wonderful way to multiply suffering. But even that you're not guilty of.
Even that. Even that is a spontaneous response to that particular stimuli. But if you are drawn to investigation, ouch. If you are drawn to this investigation, resistance is a beautiful, beautiful invitation to even just being sensitive to resistance as it shows up, or any form of displeasure as it shows up as a wonderful reminder. Hello. What's happening here? And just stepping back and seeing that one essence. Bringing attention back to love because resistance is form of love. It's clear form of love. I have that one quote, which I always find it hard to morning, Emmanuel hard to find. But this beautiful quote, when you saw the data brings back every form of resistance.
You know, greed, violence, fear, who brings it back home to its origin, which is love. You know, like fear is love for safety or is need for protection. That extremely elevated seeking grasping sort of a instinct is love for wisdom or for that. Extremely. Extremely. Again, the mind's dream of oneness, which is reality for the heart, but for the mind is only a dream because mind is duality in duality. It is something other than that, because in that you have tangible things and intangible thing can't be grasped. So even to actually see any form of resistance, if you want to have yeah, like a couple of examples.
We can even look into examples of anyone else. If you have any examples of like resistance arising in any form, resistance to ideas, resistance to being treated or mistreated in some way, we can just unpack it and bring it home, bring it home to that one essence and appreciate it. You know, this is the way some people say, oh, you got to kill the ego, you got to bury it, break it, humiliate it, put it under the carpet. How about there is no separate ego anywhere to be killed, but just another response, strategy created by that biocomputer, a program, just another program to be appreciated.
Other teaching says, oh, love the hell out of your ego, then it will melt. And these appear. The concepts of what the ego is and what it isn't, there are as many as people probably too. So Bob usually didn't go there. He would say, show me your ego. Where is it? What is it? Is there such a thing? I think I have another question. Jyoti says, oh, Emmanuel says, a day of at one moment begins tonight or right now. Yes, right now. Definitely right now. Not tomorrow. Not. Tonight. Not. Yeah, it's only now. And Jyoti says, thanks, Kat. I was pondering about the strong feelings experienced with some political ideologies and was wondering if the discomfort itself is resistance or if resisting the discomfort is resistance.
Wow. Now, beautiful. Perfect. And sorry about the roundabout mental gymnastics. I'm putting you through. Oh, it's brilliant. It's perfect. Yeah. A little bit one and the same, isn't it? You know, the resistance itself, resistance to the idea, whether it is a political idea, whether it is a vision of some disaster coming up and not wanting that disaster, which is obviously wanting the opposite, love and oneness and pleasure and whatever. If there is a political disaster. Being believed and it is resisted, then naturally resistance to that idea is the acknowledgement of the opposite is love for the, you know, resisting the idea of war. It's love for peace.
Resisting the idea of divisions is love for oneness. It's either way. Political idea, religious idea, idea about diets, idea about any form of division. Any idea whatsoever. Idea of division between me and the world. Idea about division between me and you or blacks and whites or men, women. Any idea whatsoever. Resistance to the idea. That's what it is. Resistance to the idea. And the other part of your question is resistance to political ideologies. Or is it resistance? Resistance of the discomfort or resisting the discomfort itself? Yeah. You see that the resistance is discomfort. But whether the discomfort is caused by the idea. When the idea is put aside, the discomfort is gone.
Resisting the resistance itself is also resisting the idea. Because when the discomfort. The idea of being a discomfort. The idea of being a discomfort. Is put aside. The resistance is gone. You can see even how the resistance will go away. If you take the label off. Clear mind for the moment. What's wrong right now. If there is no thought. No idea whatsoever. Just the sounds. Just seeing, hearing. Feeling. Just this. You can't even label. Even if there is a cringing. in the body, if there is no idea that it is called cringing, if there is no idea that it should be more relaxed, if there is no idea whatsoever, just the sounds, sights, no idea of having shape and form, no idea.
Resistance is not called resistance anymore. It's just, oh, yes. It's an amazing experience and experiment to just, when it is remembered, to just, what's wrong with right now? Just pause. Just, really, what's wrong? And it's always now, and it's never anything wrong until the idea shows up. And it's not wrong even then. If that idea is seen as just another arising, just like the seeing is arising, the thinking, imagining, it is all arising in that complete openness. Wow. What a dream. And now, I'm thinking about tomorrow. What a dream. It's almost as if we even have this funny kinesthetic habit. of, you know, like sometimes you look to the left or you look to the back to picture or imagine the past or if you have auditory memory, it's kind of your eyes go this way, this way.
As if really in that great entertainment, multiverse of entertainment, you had the screen here, screen there, you know, like you could even picture yourself in that 3D cinema in which you're just swapping channels. You know, I'm looking here. Okay, this is my mom. Oh, this is my sister. Oh, this is my future. This is my past. And all that multiverse of the obsession of me and mine, which is when it is seen from that openness and curiosity, it doesn't hurt. It's not self obsession anymore. It's just self love. Because there is nothing wrong. And there's nothing to evaluate. Nothing. Nothing is good enough or bad enough or not enough or enough.
There's nothing to even say about any of it apart from just, wow, just appreciation. I think I have another comment. Oh, that's a great point. Thank you. Come on, anyone, please, please participate. John, would you like to jump in? Yeah, I think that. What's so beautiful about it is there really is nothing to correct. It's all of these urges and forces are completely natural, even someone who's truly mentally ill. I mean, say someone is like schizophrenia, and they're paranoid. And their paranoia, paranoia, projects on others. And they, as a result, try to defend themselves. That's a that's a normal natural urge. There's just a misunderstanding.
And that it's a projection. And that's what it always is. So when we identify with one aspect, one little bit of the content, versus recognizing where the whole thing, those natural urges will, you know, attempt to love this one little bit and defend this one little bit, maybe at the exclusion of others, then we don't realize that. You know, it really what's going on, though, is it's just, we don't, we're not recognizing the full picture. And when you see the truth of that, you know, as Bob would say, as the Bible still says, know, the truth and the truth will set you free. It's, it's not something that you have to become.
It's not something you have to learn. It's not an agreement. What you have to become is something that needs to be done. And I think it's important to bring that to listen and realize that. philosophy it's just a course correction oh I was off there I thought there was someone here I thought there was someone separate now that I'm looking it's not really there oh okay what does that mean well it you know suddenly those urges that were falsely projected onto one aspect are suddenly real lot into the whole and awareness finds that it is synonymous with everything as opposed to just this little supposed separate self and suppose it because it's not again it's not even there so yeah it's just I think it's really cool that it's just a series of misunderstandings and that there's nothing to do but recognize that uh you're you're it and so you don't have to exert extra effort or force and trying to become something and then just see where you're caught uh that can manifest in different ways for different individuals that's why it's our own work um whether it's really perceiving a duality we'll look into that and see if it's really true you know or finding some form of resistance investigate it get curious about it you know and you know I don't always I'm not always able to do this but you know if I'm in a mood if I'm in I'm feeling some kind of way about myself or life um or a politician like no 100 that's going to pass they always do so use that time well and take advantage of that feeling I mean get it for all it's worth right because then you uh are automatically shifting the meaning it's no longer something negative it's something useful and if it goes away too quickly like you say no get back here I haven't I'm not finished with you yet bad mood I mean what a different way of looking at it and um it's all there to teach you something um if you go in without preconceptions and just that same openness and then uh it's also it's just kind of falling away naturally um I've heard the metaphor of it being like you know it's all one like say it can be water but sometimes it just turns into a little bit of ice and maybe with a little curiosity or love it just starts to melt and go back into the hole and we're just constantly trying to find those different pieces of ice um and uh and just let them let them come home and rejoin yeah that's what that's what came to me wow that was absolutely beautiful that was so powerful such an incredible um amazing visual to remember you know course correction for the starters yeah just don't look back hello you're here now yeah yeah but I was away with the birds for half an hour torturing myself with all those ideas forget it forget it forget it like wait wait wait wow yes but there is an there is a strong feeling arising very very charged oh fantastic make the most of it yeah yeah what what a wonderful way of engaging with the now whatever is arising look it's not gonna last just enjoy it just yeah it's like watching a really really good entertainment good movie when there is a suspense and the whole body responds to the suspense wow this is good convincing real it feels real and you love those type of entertainments so make the most and enjoy this one oh yeah but I got lost in the mind yes I life I consciousness get lost in the mind wow Bravo me to me wonderful well done but right now okay now right now I'm here I'm here check every time you look is any other time than right now every time oh no I'm here I'm present always when I check when I look I'm here I'm alive yeah yeah but half an hour ago two hours five hours last 20 years forget it right now you're here yes but there is a feeling wonderful yes there is a sky oh fantastic what a call for celebration yeah yeah but feeling is the stomach I hate it well hate love hating it it would be pretty sickly if you if you if you didn't hate it and and yes the the the example of of projection of schizophrenia of paranoid schizophrenia wow wow you know how would you how would you even know compassion which is a beautiful beautiful form of love if that didn't arise And maybe that happens to you occasionally.
Then you know it firsthand. Or it happens to someone else. Still, it's the part of the whole beautiful experiencing field. Every form, every form, every dance that one essence, one life, one love is performing for itself, to itself. Right now. It's to be appreciated. It's to be recognized from that natural state, safe, relaxed. This is again... Oh, John, I see you on mute. Come on, jump in. Me? I'm sorry, is there no John? No, go on. I was nodding agreement. Yeah, yeah. Okay, no, I kind of hope you have something more to elaborate. I really love the way you present it. It's so powerful. It's really brilliant.
No, that's... That same vibe, that same openness and that same downness, you know, because even investigating it, it's all just assumptions. So it's like even in our use of language, I heard someone, a Japanese Zen teacher saying that in the West, the use of the English language can be challenging because how we say, you know, I am angry. And, you know, there was other examples in how it was different from Japanese. But just recognizing that, you know, you're creating a self that is changing. So you're choosing something. And who would ever choose anger? Who would ever choose a negative thought? That doesn't make any sense.
You know, just, you know, having that look. Well, then what's happening? There's just an arising of a feeling. And when you separate it from the concept, is it really even that bad? Well, what is it? There's some heat in my chest. Okay. You know, is that terrible? can you survive that heat in your chest you know I can't bear it you already are you currently are bearing it so it's just thoughts and they're fine there's no difficulty but recognize it as a thought okay no oh well it's not so bad then that way you know kind of like I was saying um before it's like there's anger how do you know you're angry investigate what you're calling angry and see is it angry no it's not sentient it's just this flow of energy it doesn't have it doesn't have an opinion well who does what's this an idea and then I did two is another thing like the feelings of of the heat in your chest that's anger then there's an idea of anger and then what else nothing then it's just this open expression so it's again it's it's nothing to get it's nothing to figure out it's just you know just seeing what's there just seeing what's there and it's already allowed because it's happening completely effortlessly you know that's all I got that's brilliant that's beautiful I hope you repeat it every week because it's really really precious it's really yeah great reminder and it's always so beautiful uh to to hear the same message spoken through different vessels you know how it different aspects are highlighted that's why we always invite people to just voice it and this is a small group just because tomorrow is a Julius so a lot of people just joined the uh Zoom group a little bit earlier tomorrow morning Americans and you guys can do both too but we have evening groups also for Europeans those are bigger we have 20 plus people and and and hearing it resonating hearing it really landing for so many in the group is so encouraging it just shows how natural how simple how easy how obvious it is when you relax the thinking and you just trust what's happening relax the thinking and just see the arising and just be with the arising space like presence see how the mind functions in it feeling emotion idea arises already vocalized somehow subtle way or in more kind of rigid way sometimes goes with the voice of a narrative sometimes with a mental image see the arising of it from that relaxed safe space of the of the presence of the heart and it's you know the mind which always so preoccupied with the safety which is absolutely beautiful beautiful form of love love of being wanting to be safe preserving the vehicle that mind the more relaxed the more tamed in a way assured that the safety is already here just to be recognized there there's no need for this vigilance right now when the need is there you won't be investigating those things it automatically kicks in you know if someone is about to smash into your car the focus the alertness will already be present don't have to worry about it if it's not well attorney Eternity of nothingness, there it is.
Not a problem. Dying daily or dying moment to moment into that safety of eternity of being, eternity of now. Sometimes, and that is also to be honored, especially now when I'm in the settings of trauma release and healing. I see a lot of people having that, you know, like if they had to survive really traumatic childhood, they hypervigilant, extremely controlling, traumatized just like any other animal would be just shaken and traumatized. Don't touch me. Don't come near. Don't look at me. Don't argue. That can be tamed by just, again, stepping back in a safe space, breathing out and allowing it to show itself for what it is, that love for safety, that protection, having the tenderness and appreciation for that program, which evolved out of love of being.
And slowly, just even, you know, it's like almost, that voice that has always been shut down, never been heard, never been acknowledged, just included in that unconditionality of love without, you know, like, um, there's something wrong with me. I can't trust anyone. I I'm paranoid. Everybody's against me suffering, but stepping back and seeing that that voice is not really, it's, it's not truly and not fully who you are. You more than that, you more spacious than the survival instinct playing out. You more spacious than the love for safety, the need for protection. You are here. Therefore that love for protection and spaciousness comes in. You are prior to that survival instinct and taming it slowly by acknowledging it, seeing it, allowing it, recognizing it, appreciating it.
And then again, realizing that what you are can die. Energy can't be destroyed and allowing that mind to die daily. Just like a dice every night when it goes to sleep, die hourly, minutely, just it's okay. It's okay. Now, no mind. Hmm. Wow. Finding the moment to pause when it's safe. If the mind is super traumatized, when it's safe, pause. And then when the flaring up happens, acknowledging it, appreciating it, recognizing it, reassuring it. And you know, when, when you love your enemy is not an enemy anymore. So mind is not the enemy. It's the enemy. And the strategy that it is devised that very, very rigid strategy.
It, it might have been a necessity within that daily dream of leaving. It might not exist there when you dream at night and visit other planets of fly. But in this particular day, sort of version of that movie in the multiverse of entertainment, is there to be loved? What's there not to be loved? And I have a couple of more comments here. Emmanuel said, could you please talk about the experience of loneliness, isolation, internal desolation? I understand that all perceived states of luck based on illusion believed. But the last week you mentioned people in their nineties dying of loneliness. How to reveal that which is beyond apart and alone, connected or disconnected.
Wow. Wow. What a beautiful heart you are. Yes, that's a beautiful question. And we have Bradley says resistance co-creates the resisted. How does a ship overcome its own bow wave? Can it, or can I get out of the ship? Or can I, but it is stop. It stops, puts down, anger goes up and down with the swell. Wow. That's an incredible visual. And that visual is actually really even to apply to people in their nineties. Dying of loneliness, you know, in this dream, this particular vessels, they thrive when the sources of love are multiple. And the mind that is again, you know, for tribal animals, the same applies, you know, dogs or pigs or chooks, they happier if there is few of them.
Humans also feel more nurtured. That's just the nature of this vessel when they have other human contact. It's not to say that in particular settings, this will always be provided. It's not to say that if it is unavailable, then they can't thrive. We know hermits and all those, it's still possible. But what causes the suffering is the resistance, you know, the bow wave, the ship pushing against those storms. When it stops and it goes with the swell, there is no resistance, there is no wave. So. I was working with elderly people who, yes, they were literally waiting at the door two hours before I came, waiting to see another human who actually loved them.
Longing for that, for that reflection to be seen, to be acknowledged. And Nisargadatta would also answer questions and therefore, especially for people longing for that, you know, that other half. So they speak. He would say, why would people join in couples? Why would they be male, female? What for? Why? If we all complete, if I'm all complete, why did I need Bob? Why do I need girlfriends? The question why is the wrong question. I'm not doing it. I'm not needing anything. There is a natural attraction. Why? Why? Nisargadatta would say for the potential. Explanation. Explosion of joy through recognizing that reflection to be the same oneself.
You can do it with the mirror. It will work. But there is a particular, particular wave of joy when it happens through the reflection of another human. Be it a neighbor, a milkman. Be it a person. Be it a mother. Be it a pet. It's just something very pleasurable. And we naturally. We naturally. We naturally. We naturally. We naturally. We naturally. We naturally. We naturally. We naturally. We naturally. We naturally. That's the survival instinct. Part of a survival instinct. To avoid pain and be drawn to pleasure. That's why we get addicted to food, to shopping, to any dopamine rushing social media, anything. That's this primary, binary, original cause of the movement.
Movement towards driving away from suffering. This is a really good question because. And. And Jyoti says, thanks, Bradley, John, and Kat. Oh, I think we're getting. Oh, thank you, Jyoti. We're getting to the end of the session. I wouldn't even know. But it is really a beautiful topic, Emmanuel, to even sit with the longing. What does it mean? Where does it come from? The idea of loneliness, the idea of being unfulfilled. But isn't that also an idea? Because like John beautifully pointed to, you know, when you drop that concept or idea, this is just moment of now. And really the wave of longing for enlightenment, for another person, for recognition, for name and fame, for money, for respect, for whatever it is.
It always comes from the mind. It always comes from love for more. I care so much. I want more for you than this. But when you land in the heart, this, this is always enough. Even if it is taking a shape of longing, even if it is taking a shape of taking your last breath on your deadbed. Even. In the cancer pains. Any shape it takes is always enough because it is here. It is what is rather than the mental image of projection of what is not. Fall in love with that. Recognize love in that. What is naturally attractive in this, in this dream is sense of completeness and sense of happiness.
If you are the one longing for some one who will reflect that incredible capacity of love and compassion, you'll be more successful in your ideate completeness than when you need it. Find that completeness. Get to your heart. It is here. It's never not here. You already are complete. You are already whole. You are the consciousness. If not for you, loneliness wouldn't be possible. Or any other experience, any other feeling. The whole world, the whole multiverse is here because of the presence of consciousness, because of the existence, the being. If you rest in that, what's left is celebration. There is no objection to whatever arises. This is not going to last.
Thank you, everyone. Thank you for hanging out and thank you for contributing. And thank you, Facebook people, for the questions. And please consider clicking on that Zoom link. It's only five of us here today. It would be nice if we have. But it's perfect as it is, too. And Emmanuel says yes and thank you and lots of love.