Unadorned space. Sailor Bob and the group. 21 Apr 2024

Yes. Hi. I am going to have a breakfast. Tanya, do you want to say a nice round? Irina? Cliff? Cliff? Eurigus? Silencio? Kyle? And Adrian? Justine. Ross? Gilbert? T-boy? Josh? Lee? Little pesto? I like him. And... I like him. And... Bob. I like him. And Bob. I'll be good then. Hi everyone. Hi everyone. Hi everyone. Hi everyone. Hi everyone. You know what it's all about? Tell us. What they call... non-duality. in Hinduism, Advaita. Advaita. Meaning one without a second. Not two. Only the one. Only the one. And when you look at that... ...and when you look at that... ...you know what it's all about? Tell us.

What they call... ...non-duality. In Hinduism, Advaita. Advaita... meaning one without a second. Not two. Only the one. Advaita. Advaita... meaning one without a second. Advaita... meaning one without a second. Not two. Only the one. Only the one. Only the one. And when you look at that... ...and recognise... ...what they're pointing to... ...is the truth. That there is... ...only one essence... ...that patterns, shapes and forms... ...experiences... ...and expressing... ...as everything. So everything... ...if it's non-dual... ...it must be... ...everything is equal... ...and... ...absolute. Only that. But that's... ...what's missed out on. We've got these... ...names and forms... ...and take ourselves to be this... ...separate entity. This individual.

So we need to question... ...if you move to... ...and look at all these things... ...and see for yourself. And... ...that's what's not recognised... ...how simple... ...and real... ...easy... ...it really is. But it's overlooked. ...and... ...what they call it... ...in... ...advaita... ...or the end of scriptures... ...that they say... ...everything is absolute... ...in pointing out... ...that there's nothing other than that. ...and that's the great mantra... ...I am that... ...you are that... ...everything is that. We all know that... ...but we put other words... ...or titles onto it... ...and separate it with the word. ...that... ...absolute... ...and... ...again they call it... ...that absolute... ...it's... ...the basic space... ...of phenomena...

...is... ...is... ...space... ...it's the base of everything... ...and phenomena... ...everything is a phenomenal... ...manifestation... ...and they decided... ...that the definition of phenomena... ...is that... ...what is it? ...which appears to be... ...definition of phenomena... ...is that... ...which appears to be... ...pointing out... ...that everything... ...is appearance... ...only... ...that means you... ...I... ...and everything else... ...is all... ...appearance... ...seemly real... ...recognized as real... ...until... ...it's looked into... ...and investigated... ...and... ...it's all the content... ...of space... ...the base of everything... ...is space... ...can you find a point... ...or a centre... ...or anywhere where space begins... ...can you pinpoint a point... ...or start to it... ...can you separate it... ...can you divide it...

...does it have any centre... ...any circumference... ...any boundaries... ...and you realize... ...you can't put... ...any beginning to it... ...any end... ...any boundaries... ...so it has no shape... ...or no form... ...but yet here it is... ...right... ...where you are right now... ...the very first thing you see... ...is space... ...but if I ask somebody... ...what you see... ...I see you... ...or see this... ...or see that... ...and we miss out... ...on the actuality... ...space is no thing... ...but all this manifestation... ...appears... ...as things... ...with shape... ...and form... ...patter... ...so can something... ...come from no thing... ...it can't really... ...so it's all... ...no thing... ...no shape... ...no form... ...no beginning...

...no end... ...absolute... ...now it needs... ...to be investigated... ...and see for yourself... ...whether this is so... ...because I can't teach you anything... ...I can't tell you anything... ...all I can do... ...is point... ...toward... ...and ask you to look... ...to where I'm pointing to... ...to see for yourself... ...because what we're pointing to... ...there is nothing... ...other than yourself... ...other than yourself... ...so her kind of... ...pattern... ...shape or form... ...tell you what you are... ...you've got to see it... ...for yourself... ...and know it for yourself... ...or another way I put it... ...I'm not speaking to any body... ...I'm not speaking to any mind... ...I'm not speaking to that...

...body-mind character... ...you might you believe yourself to be... ...I'm speaking to that... ...I am... ...that I am... ...that self-centre... ...that resonates... ...through the mind... ...and expressing it... ...as the thought... ...just of this... ...and nothing else... ...because that is all there is... ...and... ...if you recognise... ...and realise... ...it is absolute... ...what can be added to absolute... ...nothing whatsoever... ...it wouldn't be absolute... ...if you could add anything to it... ...can you take anything away from it... ...it wouldn't be absolute... ...so they call it absolute... ...there... ...and... ...Buddhism will call it... ...the great perfection... ...perfection is the same as absolute... ...you can't add anything to it... ...can't take anything away from it...

...and that's all there is... ...now... ...if you recognise yourself as absolute... ...who could be superior to you... ...well... ...you realise... ...if it's absolute... ...there could be nothing superior... ...can't take it away from absolute... ...who could be inferior to you... ...again... ...you'll see there's nothing superior... ...or inferior to you... ...then what would you want from anybody else... ...you wouldn't need or expect anything... ...from anybody else... ...so you see where all our psychological problems... ...come from... ...the wanting... ...and believing... ...and thinking... ...we are not... ...this absolute... ...we are this separate entity... ...we are this person... ...and we need to become... ...something... ...so then we... ...take on all these practices...

...and... ...other things we talk about... ...meditation and all... ...trying to become... ...something... ...but realise... ...becoming... ...you can never be becoming... ...because becoming... ...implies a future time... ...and you're looking at that concept of time... ...and you see that time... ...time itself is a concept... ...of past... ...present... ...and future... ...try and live in the past... ...can you go back and live yesterday... ...or a moment ago... ...you know you can't go back... ...and live a moment ago... ...but you can recall of it... ...and you can't recall all of it... ...so... ...that's only reality... ...is what you're recalling right now... ...and the future... ...can you live in the future?

...well you can't live... ...a moment in the future... ...you can anticipate... ...and imagine... ...the future... ...what you're going to say next... ...or what you're going to do next... ...but it's all happening now... ...spontaneously... ...and you recognise that... ...you've never moved away from this now... ...when does now begin? It's beginning right now... ...and when is it ending? Now... ...and what's it doing? It's beginning again... ...a spontaneous emanation... ...in which things... ...patterns... ...shape... ...and form... ...and appear... ...to be other than that... ...so... ...that's what needs to be looked at... ...am I this body? ...am I this mind? ...am I this person? ...and say... ...body... ...mind... ...person... ...all concepts...

...all words... ...how many words... ...was I born with? ... ...when you look at... ...and investigate... ...you see you weren't born... ...with any words at all... ...and you didn't pick up words... ...till you were a couple of years old... ...might have been two... ...two and a half... ...or a bit earlier... ...it all depends how smart... ...that pattern is... ...expressing through... ...not so smart... ...it might take a little bit longer... ...but it all begins... ...for you... ...the believed in you... ...me... ...and everything else... ...as words... ...tells it out in the Bible... ...in the beginning was the Word... ...the Word was with God... ...the Word was God... ...so what God is...

...is a Word... ...all things were made by Him... ...by the Word... ...and there's nothing made... ...that was made... ...without the Word... ...aren't you conversing... ...talking... ...and thinking... ...and seeing... ...in words... ...all words... ...that we've picked up... ...and learnt... ...but when you investigate... ...the Word... ...and see the Word's... ...not the thing... ...take the Word water... ...try and drink it... ...try and swim in it... ...or drown in it... ...wash yourself in the Word... ...take the Word fire... ...cook with it... ...if you can... ...heat yourself with it... ...burn yourself... ...and when you look into these words... ...I or me... ...what's this... ...I or me... ...comes about... ...what we take on...

...I... ...to be this... ...body-mind... ...this person... ...this is... ...I... ...it is the sense of presence... ...the knowing that you are... ...and that sense of presence... ...is expressed through each and every one... ...of you right now... ...and that's how they describe it... ...in Hinduism... ...existence... ...consciousness... ...bliss... ...Nama Rupa... ...Five Factors... ...are you existing right now... ...and you know... ...yes I'm existing... ...and you know that... ...and you're conscious... ...and you know that... ...you're not unaware... ...you are aware... ...you're happy to be... ...well you don't want to be dead right now... ...so you'd rather be than not be... ...so you're happy to be... ...and the Nama Rupa... ...the body-mind...

...the shapes and the forms... ...is Maya... ...it's illusion... ...unreal... ...and the definition of reality... ...is it which never changes... ...what is it... ...that never changes? Well when you look into it... ...and investigate... ...you realise that... ...the only thing that never changes... ...is space... ...space doesn't change... ...it has no beginning... ...no centre... ...as I pointed out before... ...no circumference... ...it just is... ...and I pointed out years ago... ...and I... ...visited the place where... ...I was born... ...I thought I went up in the train... ...the train was... ...different... ...was an electric train... ...before that was an old steam train... ...when I was there... ...the platform I stood on...

...was... ...made of asphalt... ...and things like that... ...before it was... ...just piled up mud... ...with a few stones there... ...looks across... ...a bit of a valley... ...where the... ...from the stations... ...where the... ...creek used to run... ...there was no... ...only a gutter there now... ...it had been blocked off... ...somewhere upstream... ...and... ...there was no river... ...no creek running through it... ...and the trees... ...and things that were in the... ...space... ...between the... ...platform... ...and the... ...creek... ...was a few hundred yards away... ...it didn't... ...the trees had gone... ...and a lot of the shrubbery... ...there was... ...mainly grass and stuff there... ...blackberries... ...and things like that... ...and I realised that...

...everything had changed... ...this body had changed... ...this body had changed... ...everything else had changed... ...but it was the same space... ...that... ...the things were appearing... ...the clouds in the sky... ...were different... ...couldn't say there was... ...anything the same... ...except the cognising... ...emptiness... ...the emptiness... ...which had all appeared in... ...the space... ...and that's what the Buddha calls it... ...cognising emptiness... ...we think we cognise... ...the emptiness... ...but we don't... ...it's that emptiness... ...that intelligence... ...and that life... ...that's vibrating... ...and patterning... ...and expressing... ...as this jantipause... ...that it patterns... ...shapes and forms... ...experiences everything... ...and the Buddha pointed that out... ...when he said... ...emptiness is form... ...pointing out...

...that it's... ...cognising emptiness... ...everything patterns... ...sapes and forms... ...that it's through... ...movement... ...seeming... ...seeming emanation... ...or movement in it... ...that vibrates into... ...seeming patterns... ...sapes and forms... ...but it's still the same shape... ...emptiness is form... ...and he pointed out... ...that form... ...can be nothing... ...other than the emptiness... ...you and I are forms... ...we don't like it... ...do we think... ...we're emptiness... ...no thing... ...but that's basically... ...all it is... ...am I this body? Well I look at this body... ...and say... ...my body... ...well if I'm saying... ...my body... ...and think it's my body... ...who's the me... ...or the my... ...that thinks it has a body? ...I don't say...

...I body... ...it's my body... ...my mind... ...when I look for this... ...I or me... ...see this... ...I is just a word I picked up... ...when my parents... ...at about two... ...years old... ...when the capacity of reasoning... ...developed in me... ...with the label on... ...you are... ...your name is Bob... ...well I took that on board... ...and believe that's what I am... ...I am Bob... ...the word... ...if somebody asks me here today... ...who I am... ...I say... ...I am Bob... ...and you'll say... ...I am so and so... ...whatever your name is... ...so you realise... ...you are this body... ...but it's not so... ...when you investigate... ...and when you do...

...investigate it... ...and see... ...know the truth... ...you recognise... ...you are the absolute... ...you're not the body... ...you are not the mind... ...but we put the separation... ...when we believe... ...we are this body... ...well what's this body... ...made up of... ...look at it... ...and you realise... ...the body when you look at it... ...is made up of elements... ...air... ...ear... ...fire... ...space... ...just like the... ...elements around you... ...all the content of space... ...all appearing in space... ...what they call... ...adornments... ...of space... ...space is not corrupted... ...or contaminated... ...by anything... ...appears... ...that appears in it... ...because the appearance... ...that's all it is... ...a manifestation... ...an appearance... ...a phenomenal manifestation...

...and the definition of phenomena... ...is that which appears to be... ...it's all seemingly... ...be... ...so you're not the body... ...are you the mind... ...again you say... ...my mind... ...well if you think of the mind... ...show me your mind... ...tell me what the mind is... ...and you'll see... ...there's no such thing as mind... ...apart from thought... ...and thought is... ...word... ...idea... ...image... ...concept... ...sound... ...a vibration... ...just the same as the elements... ...can be broken down... ...to subatomic particles... ...into energy... ...so can this thing called mind... ...be broken down... ...into elements... ...into energy... ...so the body-mind... ...is just a vibrating... ...pattern of energy... ...which only seems... ...to be different...

...to the reality... ...which is space... ...no thing... ...and that's when they tell you... ...that the person... ...is not reality... ...if you read... ...I am that... ...I think the third chapter is... ...entitled that... ...the person is not reality... ...pointing out what... ...has been pointed out... ...down through along... ...all along... ...and what's not recognised... ...that there is no such thing... ...as a separate entity... ...an individual... ...or a person... ...where does the word... ...person come from... ...the ancient Latin persona... ...a mask... ...we've got this mask... ...or conceptual image... ...with I am Bob... ...I am so-so... ...I am this... ...I am that... ...I am that... ...all concepts... ...all words...

...take it to be real... ...as I point out... ...the word's not the real... ...what am I... ...without the word? ...well immediately... ...when I say that... ...there comes... ...a silence... ...a quietness... ...can't say anything... ...without the word... ...but do I disappear? ...do I fall apart? ...do I stop breathing? ...hearing? ...thinking? ...it doesn't... ...while the thought has stopped... ...there's no thinking... ...but I can't stop the thought... ...for very long... ...because it's all... ...a natural... ...spontaneous... ...vibration... ...take your leaf out of nature... ...look at nature... ...see how that's functioning... ...this... ...earth we're supposed to be on... ...this side of the... ...earth... ...the globe... ...is facing the sun... ...so it's light...

...and the other side of the earth... ...it's dark... ...and what's the earth doing? ...rolling around in space... ...another pattern... ...shape and form in space... ...that's rolling around... ...but this part that's facing the sun... ...we think it's light... ...but does the earth know anything... ...about daylight or dark? ...it doesn't... ...and does the sun know anything... ...about daylight and dark? ...it doesn't... ...but that's how it's... ...shaping and forming... ...and that... ...look at it... ...every other thing... ...going in and take the seasons... ...well it's... ...the end of... ...well it's autumn here now I think... ...and soon... ...that'll move on... ...and become spring again... ...and the leaves... ...and trees...

...the things in the trees... ...and that... ...were dropped... ...and... ...goin into... ...well not in this country... ...they don't lose the leaves... ...in the foreign countries... ...they outwaves... ...the life... ...springs into them again... ...and the leaves... ...sprout... ...and the leaves... ...will become flowers... ...and then fruits... ...and grow on... ...we're changing constantly... ...and that's another thing to look at... ...how do we come into existence? ...we think we are this person... ...this body-mind... ...well where did you begin? ...you say you were born... ...but you can't remember your birth... ...because you had no words... ...you're told you were born... ...but you can't remember it... ...and you didn't learn any words...

...till you were a couple of years old... ...but yet you were still living... ...so doesn't that point out... ...that you're prior to thought? ...you're prior to the word... ...you're before the word... ...and where did you begin? ...go back to your father... ...that animal in life... ...as it's a pattern... ...shape and form your father... ...then that pattern... ...enable a little... ...particle called a sperm... ...to form... ...which you can't see... ...with your naked eye... ...but that sperm was... ...fused with intelligence... ...or life... ...it knew what to do... ...and the same in your mother... ...that animating life... ...essence in your mother... ...enabled in that pattern... ...a little microscopic particle...

...called an egg... ...or an ovum to form... ...that ovum was... ...suffused with life... ...with intelligence... ...it knew what to do... ...it attached itself... ...to the wall of the uterus... ...and the sperm... ...swam to the ovum... ...implying there was life in it... ...and the capacity of swimming... ...and it penetrated the ovum... ...the ovum was full of life too... ...it attached itself to the wall... ...to the uterus... ...sperm knowing what to do... ...swam to the ovum... ...and when those two merged together... ...what happened... ...the intelligence or life in them... ...double that cell... ...and doubled it again... ...formed the little embryo... ...the little fetus... ...which is what you are today...

...what were you doing about it then... ...and what are you doing about it now... ...you might think and believe... ...you're doing a lot... ...but what comes up... ...in the thoughts and words... ...is not always... ...how it appears to be... ...but the spontaneous activity... ...that goes on... ...that which is replacing cells... ...in your body... ...causing you to breathe... ...beat your heart... ...grow your hair and fingernails... ...the thoughts to come and go... ...and the thoughts... ...that come and go... ...into words... ...are just vibrations of that energy... ...but we've taken ourselves to be the Word... ...and we're not... ...and taking ourselves to be the Word... ...we take on all this...

...psychological problems... ...because we've... ...that sense of separation... ...taken on that... ...that I am this person... ...that sense... ...I am... ...is the primary thought... ...a vibration... ...om... ...was a vibration... ...which I call it... ...I am... ...spinzaneous vibration... ...which we take to be real... ...and add to it... ...all the conceptual images... ...I am this Bob... ...I'm a good fella... ...or not so good... ...I'm unhappy... ...I'm fearful... ...having a bad trot... ...or... ...things are not too good... ...but all the concepts... ...and words we've learnt... ...we've added on to this I... ...to give it some... ...meaning... ...some seemingly reality... ...when... ...the only reality it is... ...and ever will be...

...is absolute reality... ...but we're taking it... ...to a separate entity... ...we're trying to make that... ...seemingly real... ...and it's only me... ...that can be unhappy... ...it's only me... ...that can be fearful... ...only me... ...that can be anxious... ...or depressed... ...jealous... ...or envious... ...all the psychological... ...soffering comes about... ...with the words... ...which we take up... ...and add to... ...with the belief... ...in separation... ...and look at that... ...word belief... ...you look into your dictionary... ...the definition of belief... ...is an unquestioned acceptance... ...of something... ...in the absence of reason... ...means we haven't looked this up... ...or looked into it... ...we've taken ourselves... ...because... ...everybody... ...around us... ...repeating... ...I am...

...this body... ...mind... ...and there's been a few... ...down through the ages... ...that have pointed it out... ...but the majority... ...go with the... ...belief of the separate entity... ...and it's been passed by a few... ...but not everybody... ...recognises... ...because... ...not everybody... ...wants to look at it... ...and investigate... ...they get along quite reasonably well... ...a lot of us... ...to the expense of others... ...and don't want to change... ...and... ...and... ...some of us... ...get so locked into it... ...it's pretty near impossible... ...to change... ...we can get so locked into... ...the fear and the anxiety... ...and some of us realise... ...there's got to be a bit more to that...

...than what there is... ...and look into it... ...and hear it... ...and see it for ourselves... ...like some people in this room... ...have grasped and understood it... ...and... ...that... ...is necessary also... ...if there wasn't anybody... ...to pass it on... ...how could it be passed on? ...you'd be stuck in the old... ...religious belief... ...that you're a sinner... ...you're unhappy... ...and you're jealous... ...and envy... ...and don't like this... ...and don't like that... ...not realizing this idea... ...I or me... ...we put all these labels on... ...and concepts... ...and words... ...is not the reality... ...but you see that... ...me is the cause... ...of all this psychological suffering... ...for it's only me...

...that can be fearful... ...or unhappy... ...and you're so depressed... ...me is the cause... ...and the effects... ...of the cause... ...are the... ...anxiety... ...the stress... ...the sickness... ...the jealousy... ...the unhappiness... ...they're the effects... ...of the cause... ...cause and effect... ...isn't that so-called karma... ...cause and effect... ...well what would happen... ...if I looked into the cause... ...me... ...and see... ...there was no such thing as me... ...it's only a conceptual image... ...and ask myself the simple question... ...well can there be an effect... ...if I'm not relating to a cause... ...well can there? Test it out... ...you don't have to believe in what's that here... ...quest it out to itself...

...if I'm not relating to this cause... ...me... ...who is it... ...that can be unhappy... ...especially if it's recognised... ...that it's absolute... ...and only the one... ...who can never be unhappy... ...who can be fearful... ...who can be anxious... ...or jealous... ...so you see... ...without the effect... ...they can't... ...without the cause... ...there can't be effect... ...so cause and effect... ...are fiction... ...so what's left then? ...well what is left... ...well am I unaware now? There's still awareness there... ...awareness of this presence... ...awareness of the concept... ...of the past... ...and the imagination of a future... ...and the future... ...acadest in the world... ...if I was not... ...in the many...

...in the only... ...in the way to be... ...in the way to be... ...in the way to be... ...in the way to be... ...in the way to be... ...in the way to be... ...in the way to be... ...in the way to be... ...in the way to be... ...in the way to be... ...in the way to be... ...in the way to be... ...in the way to be... ...in the way to be... ...in the way to be... Oh, it is left. Well, am I unaware now? There's still awareness here, awareness of its presence, awareness of the concept of the past and the imagination of the future. It's all the content of awareness.

And is there anybody in this room who is unaware right now? Anybody who is not existing right now? Not existing? You know you're existing? You know you're not unconscious? You're not unaware? Anyone who's not happy to be? Well, you don't want to be dead right now, is there? So what does that tell you? If that's it, that's all there is, and you stand up to that, what do you have to investigate and look for? Wouldn't it be right just to look at it every more, a little bit deeper and say, am I existing? Am I unaware? Am I this body? Investigate and see if those things are true.

And what do they tell you then? They say, know the truth, and the truth will set you free. Simple as that. Know or recognise the truth, that you're not this person, you're not this entity, yet you're still seeing, you're still hearing, still breathing, heart's still beating, thoughts coming and going, seasons coming and going, the whole world's going on, and you can't be anything other than that. And isn't that what they tell you? The great mantra is, I am that. And innately, everyone knows that, because they say, that's the chair you're sitting in. That's the room I'm in. That's the carpenter. That's on the floor. That's the tree.

That's the flower. That's the plant. That's you. That's me. Everything is already there. Which we put these words on, and discriminate it with the word, and get lost in the word, and get stuck in this suffering. Know the truth, and the truth will set you free. What's your next thought going to be? You say, I think. Because nobody can tell me what your next thought's going to be. And each one will tell you that. If I ask you, what's your next thought going to be? You say, I don't. I don't know. But the next thought comes up. And what do we do? We grasp it.

I think. I think this thought. And the thought we're thinking becomes the object. Because you're aware of that thought. You're aware of it. There's an awareness of the thing that's saying, I think. So I think the thinker is a concept. A belief in subject. And the thought, I think, is an object. The belief in object. Dualism. And that's what's going on in our life. Subject, object, duality. Realise there can't be a subject without the thought, I think. If we're not relating to the thought, I think. And there can't be an object. And if we're not relating to whatever the thought might be. Without the thought, I think.

Can the thought, I think, really think? It can't. But there is thinking. Thinking. Thinking. Which is claimed to be, I think. Just the same as seeing. You're seeing right now. And does your eye tell you, I see? And is the word, I see, the see? The seeing is happening. Train is loaded by the thought, I see. But just like the thinking. If something's spontaneous and coming up naturally. I hear. I taste. I touch. I smell. All related to this believed in eye. A word. A concept. An idea. But without the word. Realise and recognise. You're still seeing. You're still hearing. Tasting. Touching. Smelling. Breathing. Heartbeating.

The same is in nature. Earth rounding around the sun. Seasons coming and going. Planets imploding. Exploding. Forming. All sorts of things going on out there in nature. Naturally. And none of it is divided. But we divide it with the concepts. When you realise there are two ends of the one stick. There can't be good without bad. There can't be pleasant without pain. There can't be having it without said. As Shakespeare told you a few hundred years ago. There's nothing either good or bad. But thinking makes it so. It's the thoughts or concepts that are dividing. And thoughts are words. And we pointed out earlier. The word's not the real.

It's not the thing. Pause the thought for a moment. If you can. And you really can't pause the thought. Because it's continual arising. But if you recognise. What's wrong with right now if I don't think about it? Stop breathing. Stop hearing. Stop tasting. Touching. Smelling. You haven't. But you haven't been labelling it. I think. Well if you might have been. But if you have. You realise. If that labelling wasn't going. These other things were still there. They were happening still. And they come around naturally. Of the source. We're in this thinking process. We think we've got to change. The thoughts. And divide it into I think.

And don't think. And want to change the thoughts. That in nature. Daylight. Now. It'll be dark. Winter. It'll be spring. Summer. And all. Focusing naturally. Divides. And so. Do these thoughts. But we take this I thought on. To be real. What I am. Seemingly given it. I think we give it. A seeming power. Which has got no power. As way we way tells you. Why are you unhappy? Because everything you say. Everything you think. And everything you do. Is for yourself. And he says there isn't one. And if you look all into these. Texts and scriptures. You'll see that. There is only. Most of them.

When you look at it. The ones that are reporting to the truth. And exactly as it will say. There's only one self. The Atman. Or if you like to use the term. The Godself. The one self. That's vibrating. Patterning. And expressing. As everything. That's the non-duality. The reality. The one life essence. What I call. Intelligence energy. And I call it. Intelligence energy. Well look at this. Manifestation. Have a look at it. The way it's patterning. Shape and forming. These human bodies. For instance. The trees. The flowers. The sky. The planets. And everything. Doesn't it imply. It's suffused with innate intelligence. It's not haphazardous. Or just.

You know. Things manifest. Haphazardly. Or anyhow. They're all. They're all suffused with innate intelligence. This body. For instance. The way it's patterning. It's suffused with that intelligence. Intelligence. Is knowing. You're knowing something. Knowing. Is a movement of energy. It's like being. Hearing. It's an activity. Not hear. Know. Be. It's hearing. Seeing. Thinking. An activity. Any activity. Is a movement of energy. The authority. Intelligence energy. The activity of knowing. And that's another way they put it in Hinduism. Being. Knowing. And loving to be. And every one of us. Wants to be. More than you don't want to be. That loving. Or self. That. Resonation. That comes up within you.

Heartfelt. What they call heartfelt. And so in the region of the heart. We take. Heart. The physical heart. We don't really know what they're pointing to. As heart. Is the core. Of your being. The symbol. The spirit. The center of it. The core. That's always functioning. From its core. So you are. That's something. There's a resonation. And the. Thinking comes about now. Instead of. When it does come. We're hanging on to the good. See how it works. Something good comes up. And we like it. And we don't want the good to go away. We want it always to be good. Always be happy. We don't want it to go.

Not realize that everything in this manifestation. Everything. Is transient. And by transient it's constantly changing. There is nothing static within it whatsoever. It's all changing. So these good things. No matter how much you love them. How much you want to keep them there. They're going to change. Or die. Move on. Or disappear. Or change forms. They'll continue. Constantly change. Transient. Nothing static. We don't want it to change. So what do we do? We resist it from going. Realize that any resistance is conflict. If you're resisting these words right now. You're in conflict. You don't like what's being said. Or any resistance at all that goes on in your life.

Is conflict. Any conflict makes you uneasy. You don't like it. You don't want to be like that. And the feelings that have come up with it. The sensations. Are feelings of anxiety, stress. Unease. Resistance. Conflict. And unease. Another word for it. Uneasiness. Or dis-ease. Is dis-ease. Resistance. Conflict. And dis-ease. We're not at ease anymore. Something comes up and helps it away. Something I don't like. Oh. I shouldn't be thinking this. I'm a terrible sinner for thinking this. That's a bad thought. I've got to get rid of it. I don't want this. I don't want those things to be happening. So what do we do? We resist it again.

Resistance. Conflict. And dis-ease. That's what our life is. It's functioning from these personal and to this. Is a constant conflict. Of resistance. Conflict. And uneasiness. And uneasiness. Disease. We've got brief moments of well-being when things have dropped into place. And everything is joyous. And sense of being well. Nothing wrong. But more and more we lock into the opposites. Trying to want to fight and change it. And the very struggle that's going on mentally. Keep us in the conflict longer and longer. And the moments of happiness and joy don't last very long. But what if you change it about? And let the anxiety, the fear and the depression.

Let it be there. Don't try to dis-ease. Get in conflict with it. See it as in nature. In nature. Nature's not fighting. Day's not fighting with night. Mid-dance is not fighting with summer. Tide-tide is not fighting with low tide. It comes about of itself. In this body. You're not fighting with the in-breath and the out-breath. Coming naturally. Or the beating of your heart. The digesting of the food. All these happen. So we try to change it without thinking. Thinking, you know, nothing either good or bad. But thinking, go, think. We can alter and modify it. But realise that thinking is the problem. What's wrong with right now if you don't think about it?

If you can grasp that just for a moment. And realise that it's all absent. Nothing that I say, think or do. It happens. And those things will still come up. But if the energy and belief's not going into them. They're not going to hang around as long as they did. And then we look for this thing called God. We take God to be some big daddy out there in the sky. But don't they tell you that God is love? Well, if God is love, you know what that sensation is like. You've been in love. You love things and resonate with things. If God is love, then love must be God.

There it is. You don't have to put it on to some big daddy out there that will change things. It's the very nature of yourself. That heartfelt resonance. Resonance. And abiding in it. And knowing for certain that that is what I am. Got a bit long today. And I know a lot of you people here know it and understand it. Well, the thing is to tell us how it is for you. Point it out with others that mightn't be certain of it. Might hear something in a different light. We'll open it up for all. And those of you who are just new to it and don't, I don't know, have got any questions, don't hesitate to ask.

Because somebody again might point out something that will take you along the way further by recognising what's being said. And those of you that feel for the first time, don't be frightened of asking questions. Because it's your own questioning, it's your own understanding will come about. Nobody's going to hit you on the head with a peacock feather or something or press something between your eyes or give you a mouth whisper something in your ear that's going to change things. It's your only, your only looking into things yourself and investigating and knowing the truth. And that's where the freedom, peace and joy in. So settle down and the cattle say a few words now and point you.

Thanks. Thanks. Yeah, we have about over 20 people now with us and a lot of good morning messages to everyone and love messages. and one comment from Ariel, present, aware and loving it even with the transient appearance of the Lord Jay. Ariel, loving to be. She was here with us last week sending you tons of love energy. It's wonderful to see that reflection of clarity. I wanted to actually just add a little funny element which somehow Bob I think missed out on our little trip to Beaconsfield to his down the memory lane where our beautiful Julia took us and he was saying that everything has changed.

The railway station has changed, the trees, the creeks, everything has changed. we even found that Adamson Road there named after the family that was actually half of the population of the place at some point and the kids Adamson kids were half of the population of the school there was Adamson Street as well there and change was so profound that the uncle's Arthur shop which used Bob used to park his pony when he was going to school he couldn't even place which one it was because the street looked so different and the place where the farm was huge an open space with the sheep and cows there was a suburb with hundreds of houses but the point of the whole thing when he stood there and looked around was what hasn't changed and that was the space and he says see it's only the space it never changes and the same applies to any memories to any content of the mind the space content of the visual field content of the auditory field content of the memory lane the space never changes so that is really what the story was about but it was a lovely lovely little reminder because you can see the change everywhere I mean of course you can see the change if you include the time which is the experience and I have also unless someone else would like to start because I have a couple of comments from someone who actually sent them via email about last week's meeting I actually there's quite a few I'm just gonna pick random one I think there was Tarsha who was talking about navigating dualities the dance of anxiety and peace and there is a poem that inspired that I to actually expand on it both anxiety and peace at once seeming opposing but rooted in a different perspective anxiety from separation peace from acceptance complementary aspect of our human experience and something insightful from Adrian the absolute the space like awareness Adrian and there is a quotation which was really beautifully put the personalization of the thinking is the problem like it is taking that thinking to be personal and mine and that's the tricky thing such as amazing disguise in the thinking and and Areti's insights and below a piece of response to that on the lily pad the frog sights eyes alert thoughts buzzing like flies Tonk flicks out catching each fleeting thought fly each catch a part of him shaping his world just as our minds capture thoughts shaping our reality yeah one could say even the thoughts are catching minds sometimes because you can't really separate but it sometimes it almost appears as the thought is infecting the mind and just spreading itself as a virus and there was another poem flight of fiction if you heard it referred to the word bird could fly bird could fly surely you'd find it absurd and deny and I think this was one that he actually I wrote it a little differently there was a one poem dedicated for Bob if I can find it it was about adornment in space and isn't it beautiful the pointer of adornment in space embrace the adornment of space in this world recognize the significance of every breath and step within existence grand spectacle yeah that was thank you message and so would anyone like to contribute ask question or perhaps highlight what you heard in Bob's beautiful and generous something that touched your heart something that responded resonated on a deep level even just to repeat a word in like digest it through your own musical instrument really being your own music right now if it hurt if it resonated it's like a guitar you punch one and on the other side of the room it actually responds with the sound or a question I'll start oh please thank you that was terrific spiel today Bob and I was it sort of captured a lot what I liked and something that I find cuts through it right away for me is what's wrong with right now if you're not thinking about it the mind starts getting busy and I realise it and suddenly go what's wrong with right now without a thought and the thoughts drop away and you realise as soon as you start thinking about it everything goes crazy again but while you're not thinking about it it's fine there's absolute peace and recognition of the absolute but the trouble I suppose when you were talking about Beaconsfield as a good example I started thinking that's terrible that all those beautiful pastures and trees have gone and there's houses there and you know because I have a bit of a background in politics on some of those issues and I start thinking oh that's shocking I should go and campaign out there or go and talk to someone about this or I'll write a letter and then of course the next thing is you start realising you are the thinker and you've suddenly become the subject of the thought and that's where for me all the trouble arises once I start going into the personal evaluation of the thought and thinking I've got to do something about it or this thought's for me in some way but then again once again as soon as it's seen through you can come back to just being without a thought but that is the trap I am the thinker I think for causing me resistance you know it could come up yeah I shouldn't think that I should let those thoughts go or even that is resistance and once again creating the me that has the problems we got Gilbert with us today yes happy birthday Gilbert yeah you do there's work back a long way yeah well there's an old saying it says the sum of all the parts is not equal to the whole I think it's a scientific quote but and of course it's true the whole is all inclusive includes everything there can't be anything outside of the whole otherwise it wouldn't be the whole so as Bob says you can't postulate anything outside of space because as soon as you postulate it's inside of space because space is no thing and so I can't actually be separate from the whole so all movement is upon stillness these are just words but they're pointing so there's stillness an absolute stillness if you like and there's a movement and that movement is appearing upon the stillness if you like but it's not creating two it's the same it's the space appearing to be things but they have no independence even though they appear to be intermingled with each other like this carpet for instance let's say it's made of wool and it's got probably several million threads short threads long threads it's very complex it's got a pattern on it it's got different coloured threads and you could sit there and if you pulled out one thread every day for a hundred years it probably wouldn't make much difference there's so many threads in there and each thread you pull out is appearing to be separate from the carpet but of course the carpet's not thinking it doesn't have any ideas about losing bits of itself and the separate thread doesn't really have a different destiny it's all going to end up in the city dump or in the vacuum cleaner or taken away by the garbage man and that applies to all of us you know our being or beingness appears as the body and the so called mind and it's all temporal it's a it's a vibration upon that stillness and you know this cognizing emptiness is a beautiful pointer because Bob uses the term the activity of knowing and that that's spontaneous life is spontaneous so the seeing is happening I'm not doing it it's happening I open my eyes in the morning the seeing is happening I don't have to throw a switch or start a motor or to connect the batteries it's happening spontaneously so I can't take credit for the seeing I can't say well I see this you can't see what I can see you know all this nonsense and it's the same with the hearing tasting touching all these activities of the so called being are spontaneous ever fresh and ever new but they appear to appear in patterns because we live on a planet and the planet turns and you have days one day turns into another day but if you sit up and wait till midnight and watch that clock ticking up to midnight and you're waiting for the change today turning into tomorrow it doesn't happen and it's a good thing to do that you know let it sink in there's only now there's no power of now this power of now is a god that's been created and you become a slave to this god trying to live in the now and as Bob points out you can't get out of the now try it see if you can get out of the now you can't because the immediacy is all there is and you can turn it into a god if you want or you can just ignore it but the fact is there's no separate entity called me and really that's that's the investigation and some teachers will say there's no investigation fuck them have a look see if you can find a me in your own space and time have a look this thing apparently causes so much suffering and trouble wouldn't it be very wise to find out what it is have a look see if you can find it and in the if you you know you're genuine and you really have a look you you won't find it because it's just an idea bunch a cluster of ideas and images and memories that just also ever fresh and ever new you can't live in the past you can't go to the past you can't live in the future so the only time there is is now and the cognizing emptiness or the activity of knowing is happening now always ever fresh and new you don't have to do anything about it you don't have to gather and amass some sort of special energy or do some crazy practice or meditate or whatever meditation might help for some but the activity of knowing is spontaneous and the idea of time is seen through you can see that there is no time other than this presence you can see that we are putting labels on things and this is what we have done we have learnt a language and we have learnt to put labels on things and then we put labels on things and then we think we understand what they are you know you might be driving along and see a goat and the word goat happens but you don't know what a goat is even if you have goats and you live with them and you milk them you don't know what that goat is you know it smells bad but you like the milk and the cheese from it but you still don't know what a goat is you don't know what reality is this idea of my reality and your reality it's nonsense there's only one reality and the intellect can never grasp what reality is Einstein was one of the bright ones he came up with a theory or you know a formula but it's just a formula a model of a universe is just the model and there's an old saying the map is never the territory so we you know we have a language some of us have several languages languages but languages or language is just words labels that we put on things and the understanding that we might be looking for is already present understanding is not something you grow and discover somewhere else understanding is already here it's there when you when you are born and the language really doesn't help the understanding it makes it more complicated and understanding is silent and wordless you know like Bob used to say have a look around this room and then he'd say what did you see oh well I saw the curtains there's only a certain number of things you can put labels on in that short time but you saw everything as he used to point out you see everything and you understand what everything is it doesn't take time to understand and that's really the essence you are already that and Bob also says in the first book start from the fact that you are already that then see what comes up that tries to take you away from it and that activity of knowing of actually seeing the concepts and ideas that are trying to take you away from it the realization is there's only this presence this immediacy nothing can take me away from it because I am that I am this life as Jesus said I am the life I am the light of whatever but he wasn't talking about the me talking about that essence that we all are and I can go on as long as Bob did sorry I'll let somebody else have a say talk that was beautiful thank you and I wanted to highlight that first book that you mentioned because yeah we are deeply grateful Gilbert was not everyone may know about it first who actually stood up and transcribed and organized in the form of a book Bob's teachings over 20 years ago and thanks to that book a lot of people found their way to the truth and the light and Bob and just recently on the last zoom meeting that we had we had a man from the UK who actually presented what's wrong right now if you don't think about it to the camera he says that book dispel all the illusions extinguish all the questions and was the final answer and he just shared that answer and that is also an opportunity to invite anyone who has not checked out the zoom meetings just yet because it is such a wonderful testimony to the effectiveness of Bob's style of pointing which is so uncompromised and so unadorned so clean from all the you know spiritual nonsense and all the little adornments and decorations and great words that nobody can digest that simplicity shows up of its own through people who actually stand up on zoom and spit out that clarity in their own voice in their own words so if you see 20 or 30 people and half of them is already speaking from the same standpoint from which Bob is speaking you see how simple and how effective and then you see that okay well perhaps he's right perhaps it is already in me perhaps that awareness of presence is already shining through and as Gilbert said a moment ago just see what obscures it a concept step back relax and find a way to find a way find that tune find that resonation which what is already in you that knows that that responds to the pointers and you will be the next one saying it in a wonderful wonderful simple words and simple language because there is no one here and anywhere who is not aware of the presence there's no one who hasn't been born to that sense of presence which later on was buried under the concepts and labels in the language and then the conceptual images were formed and adorned with more and more ideas and created a solid seemingly solid entity called me or I but underneath that costume underneath that shield of concepts there is still that plain clean awareness of presence clean space like awareness and everyone is invited to just check it for themselves whether there is a concept of investigation being done by a person or by whatever just push it aside and see if the inspiration will make you look and here Gioti says I hope Gilbert would think about an audible version well unfortunately some of audible versions are already being spoken by artificial intelligence pretending to be John Willer's voice so I don't know about that and Catherine says Nisargadatta quote what is known without knowing never changes and Gioti also says I can't imagine what would be left without any thoughts thinking is what I equate to the force of life how wonderful that you can't imagine it because who would be imagining and you are totally right there is nothing that is not that life force the life that has a potentiality as the emptiness expresses as everything including thoughts so thought is also a transformation of that life essence or that oneness that one energy so there is no need to imagine space with no thoughts it's just to step back and see that that space where the thoughts are on it or not is still untouched but that's a really nice nice insight yes there's no need to imagine anything at all it's the plain recognition of what is underlying all the appearance that never changes and I have another reminder here from Ray Bob's insight on the power of masks you know that conceptual image which he says is like a mask Bob reminds us that we need to examine and investigate the idea that we are separate entities or individuals and how that persona or mask essentially forms the conceptual image Bob's words brought to mind the masks people wear on Halloween once removed what inherent power does the plastic mask possesses of its own on its own it's a very very good question to ponder upon what the image what that image that I am a woman or I am a man or I am a little Johnny or whatever what power does that have if the life doesn't flow to it and below is a piece inspired by Bob's discussion on the concepts of near and far labors don't have to stick in the kingdom of!

sticklandia there resides a stick known as a sticky renowned for its playful pranks edged onto sticky are the words near at one end and far at the other one people all day sticky twirls hundred degrees proclaiming now near as far and far as near this bewildered statement leaves his friends perplexed sticky gathers them saying do you see the duality labors my shift but we are ultimately one eternal sticky adds the appearances and labels might change but not our true essence thus a few of his friends begin to perceive unity beyond mere labels sticky demonstrate that labels obscure our true essence and similar to the stick our being transcend superficial differences embracing timeless unity bob often talks about the two ended stick what a great idea just replace the labels and see how little do they change okay anyone would like what you spoke today all had a ring of truth to it and you mentioned about the that there is only one absolute reality and you also mentioned that that one thing that doesn't change is space so perhaps you can explain how those two concepts merge that there's only one absolute reality and nothing space is all that doesn't is the only thing that doesn't change you also said that all activity is just the movement of energy so you can include that as well so how do they those two concepts converge or conjoin space reality what's reality space is empty it's got no pattern no shape no form and there's nothing you can postulate or think of that can be outside of space so the things we see that appear adornments on we take to be other than space there is nothing really other than the base they call the basic space of phenomena pointing out that space is the base of everything it's all there is things appear in it things disappear but the things have no substance or no independent nature themselves a phenomenal manifestation the definition of phenomena is that which appears to be so it's all you can't separate anything really so that's absolute reality yeah okay yeah absolute reality absolute and the definition and the definition of reality and the popular definition of reality is that which never changes and it's only the space that never changes okay good even even matter appearing or it seems to appear in space is actually space because the electron or the atom is mainly space so it's all made of space yeah it's an appearance seems to be that's something I kind of want to explore a little actually because how can energy which appears as form be understood as completely absent of anything any real form like it take electricity be practical about it can you grasp it you can't it can still strike you and kill you it isn't linear form emptiness it isn't like you can actually draw the line this is the energy and this is not energy because everything ultimately as Einstein told us is matter is energy energy is matter E equals Nc squared and if you watch the mind you know the activity of knowing if you actually watch the mind and see how it operates I'm borrowing words from Bob's book again watch the mind see how it operates and see what takes tries to take you away from it so this belief in matter and concepts and ideas and it's belief is never something true so you don't have to go anywhere or do anything you just watch the mind and see how these thoughts are seemingly creating problems or things that matter to me it's always relative to me but if you see that the me is a fiction or if you see that anything is a fiction you can't believe in it again you cannot nobody believes in Santa Claus anymore because they've seen apart from you you're always a different one you know belief is never something true and everything is relative to me and that's where the suffering comes from relating everything to me so it's a habit and we have to recognise this habit of relating it to me an image so when we have a look and see if we find that image and we see that it's non-existent then we can't believe in it anymore so it really comes down to that but then even the even the real like seeing of it being all related to me as just a like a feeling that's appearing can then be related to a me comes comes after the thought so it's all relative you know we create these stories of how difficult it is how non-development is so complicated blah blah blah it's not as simple who's relating it to what who's got a feeling place there's no thing no pattern shape or form can something come from no thing it can't so it's all no thing is appearing as something just like a dream what happens in the dream you can see yourself taking apart the dream in all sorts of different places all sorts of things going on and when you wake up what happens to it disappears but we don't realise we wake up to this dream that's when we wake up this dream starts from where it left off the night before and the things in this dream don't disappear they're still there next morning the things you've dreamt in last night they're gone and you realise your body hadn't moved off the bed and no words had come out of your mouth you recognise as long as the dream and the dream like space and everything is no thing it's only seemingly so so the dream is the thought as well as the appearance like the thought is part of the appearance but yeah what's thought word sound vibration no thing we say no thing and people think that we're saying nothing a vacuum of a void but it's not it means it has no pattern shape or form like the dream can you grab it now like space can you put a boundary on space I've got space in there are we putting closing it or I'm going to stretch it out and thought for some people it's a subtle sound and for some people it's a mental image and you can't really separate it completely it's a construct still it's a construct it's off when you go in a deep sleep it's a function of that processor here so we have here a cute little comment from Ram when Gilbert was talking Ram says there is no thinker of a thought except in the case of Gilbert he is definitely a separate entity and quite a character isn't he Harry Ram Harry Ram Harry Ram and then we have Peter says any kind of explanation in words and concepts will be misleading although pointers through words can be hugely useful it's always the invitation to kind of resonate to ring the bell with something that is already known innately and Ariel says noticing efforting and struggle to understand is such a powerful clue and that is so worthy of highlighting notice the struggle of trying to grasp it to process it to digest it that's an effort appearing on that screen of effortless being thank you Ariel that's beautiful and Raka do you want to thank you so much for the wonderful wonderful spew that you had given in the start you know just being here in your presence I was actually struggling to think struggling to actually bring up a thought it was more everything was perfect that alone was and when we are in presence of such you know such beings as yourself and many here we are spontaneously and naturally brought into that space of grace but when we are when we are away like physically like when the body moves out of a satsang space I noticed that when I do some form of let's say meditation or I sit and do self inquiry that same presence is there but it lasts for just a small duration of time how can one always abide in that as that how can you get out of it how can I not who's the one that would be trying if one is that absolute just relax as I say in some of the scriptures let it rest in its uncontrived singularity recognise it as a singularity only the one don't contrive any concepts ideas or thoughts that you think could change it it's all total absolute and it's a valid question I actually ask the same question and I think everyone here would ask the same question how do I stay in that all the time I had glimpses of no thoughts how do I get there it's a wrong question because the assumption in that question is that there is an I that is to achieve certain state of thoughtlessness or state of bliss and that I is a fiction it can't achieve nothing no state that imagined I can ever achieve so the the basic premise is that presence is already here I am already that I have somehow forgotten and assumed the position in the dream of some character being somewhere how do I get out of that character well the I cannot but the presence is fueling that character so relaxing out of the character just it is already here okay at this moment it's completely obscured but relax of the obscuration the ideas of their threats or what people will think about me or I'm not good enough all those ideas are obscuration the further you relax out of those ideas rather than attending to them the more that present shines because it's always here it's never not here it's been here before you were born and that is the basics of what Bob brought from Nisargadatta and thousands before you are already that presence you are already present you are not absent right now are you no you are present and you are aware that you are present you know that you are alive that knowingness of being alive and that certainty of being present is here all the time sometimes it's forgotten because there's more you know the entertainment here is so enticing and so you know future past threats dangers dramas so incredibly entertaining and that obviousness of existence what's the big deal about that doesn't get any attention but it is never not here and then what I find really helpful is everyone who finds themselves on that path of so-called spiritual seeking look through the eyes of the mind but there is also a longing there is also a heartfelt love for those ideas which initially show up as an idea of freedom liberation mukti enlightenment awakening moksha whatever the idea is there is a love towards that idea even though it's filtered through the mind and it's completely contrived but that love bringing back that longing that love and remembering that it cannot be found in the future and it cannot be found by imagined self but it is already present and just resting in that finding the recognition that it is never not here relaxing out of the concepts including the concepts of freedom awakening and all that and just stepping down from the thinking mind to that heart to that love for being that that's it was always helpful anyway on my spiritual search so-called when it was a spiritual search going on and when there was an idea that there is I searching because once that idea is gone you don't say that it ever existed it hasn't that was just an illusion persistent illusion!

but the presence is here if you look at buddhism buddhism has so many I mean the world is full of statues of buddha probably more statues of buddha than any other so-called entity and but the buddha wasn't interested in having images of himself made or whatever and if you look at the essence of what he discovered it's the emptiness of emptiness and as he says cognizing emptiness it's a fused emptiness diffused with this capacity of knowing and many many traditions in this world we live in have generations upon generations thousands of years of this habit of creating gods creating gods to worship you know to save us or whatever and it's still happening you know even all the sacred words like presence is turned into a god you know somebody else is I'm in the presence of somebody you know but that's an ignoring of the presence here what is the presence here and is there any there you know if I want to go over there I have to walk over there and when I get there it's here it's always here there's no there so this habit of it's you know it happens so often but the recognition is that I am that it's not some magical you know formula it's not a magician's trick it applies to everyone I am that and as Bob says start from the fact that you are that it's the only fact you can be absolutely certain of the fact of your own being it's not a concept and you you can feel into it so to speak it's not necessarily a feeling it's an absence something not the presence so the absence and the presence are like Shiva and Shakti Shakti is the one who dances the energy expressing itself as the universe and Shiva doesn't have to do anything in fact he lays down and has asleep while Shakti is dancing but he keeps one eye open in the mythology and when I read that in one of these old books it said Shiva kept one eye open so that he could keep an eye on what Shakti was doing and it hit me it's like ah one eye not two eyes it's duality he had one eye open but he wasn't doing anything he's not the doer he's the emptiness in which all of the energy patterns are dancing upon that stillness and that's that's a picture of what I am I'm this absolute stillness and this movement and the activity of knowing is like the key that unlocks the dream and it falls away it's like ah this is it this is always it's never anything else everything that anyone sees or knows is through this capacity of activity of knowing and so everything that moves that car going down the road the tram whatever the bird flying that is the activity of knowing you know that's the energy and how can you say well I'm too tired I can't do my meditation today I can't go to Bob's you know I need to sleep in the activity of knowing that's it everything is that it's a beautiful thing and it's very ugly as well thanks Gilbert thanks thanks Bob and thank you Kat thanks everyone thank you thank you so much thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you