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What is moves along of itself, unaltered, unmodified, uncorrected. Over the sun, right, the clouds over the sun. Now the cloud, when the cloud wasn't over the sun, the sun's shining brightly, everything's okay. Now the cloud's over the sun, it's a period of dark, dull and all the rest of it. But do you know the sun, do you think the sun's left the sky? No, the sun never leaves the sky. But you, it doesn't stop you from getting hurt when it rains. It doesn't stop you from getting wet and all these things. But I want to say to you, has the sun ever left the sky?
But does that help if you're wet? Well just the same as, you know, when the sun comes out, you'll dry up, won't you? Yeah, but that's belief in a future occurrence, isn't it? Yeah. No, not necessarily, you know. Well even if you believe it in the future occurrence, you're not caring about the wet then, are you? It's true, because you're looking forward to being dried. Your mind's involved with the future occurrence. But no, but how, you know, how do clouds come into the sky? Well, however many come. You know that they're, you know, they're gonna make it. They're gonna move. They're gonna change. Yeah, it does come back to that not taking delivery, not accepting or rejecting what is now.
And then the knowing that the sun's always going, well I'd be better. To recognise the sun instead of being involved in the clouds. What do you want, the clouds or the sun? Mm. When you're totally involved in the clouds. Am I an evil person if I say the sun? You are in a drought. Tell me, tell me, when were you ever a person? When I thought I was. What? You thought you were evil too, you thought you were good. I thought he was good. Which one of those are you? The thought based, are you either one? Are you even a person? Only when you think about it.
Well right, if you're not the person. You're not the cloud, what are you? Maybe you're the sun itself. Isn't there a self shining presence awareness with you right now? Non conceptual? Take the concept of the clouds, and you drop the concept, what are you? Just, just. Hi sun. G'day. Don't refuse to be what you are. When those clouds are there, you're pretending to be what you are. But you're not and you never were. And what you are is the self shining sun. Don't refuse to be. So obvious, isn't it? Yes, it is obvious. When you put it like that. It'll remind it out again. It's like sometimes you forget.
Yeah. You just forget. The forgetting or the remembering is not you. What you are needs no remembering or no forgetting. Remembering and forgetting appear in it. It's quite an idea that the world is appearing in. Can you say that idea? I'm going to get it wrong, I can tell. That I'm not appearing in the world, but the world is appearing in me. It's quite a revolution. Maybe talking about there is not that pattern of skin and bones you call it, is it? No. You are just. That appearance is just another object. Who is the subject? That which the object is appearing in must be the subject.
There is no things in the past. What you are is no things. That takes all the limitations and boundaries off you. No measurement applies to you. But Bob, if there is no thing, then what is the point in anything? Well, if there's no thing, can there be anything? Could you just set it as no? How can there be a point in something? There is no point in something that's no thing. But that's the thing. Exactly. That is the thing. There is no thing. If there is this idea of non-duality versus duality or duality, what is the point in this? Why do we do this? Why do we have this need to make our lives continue on and on and on?
By living a certain way, creating medical equipment to keep us living longer? If there is no point to it, why are you doing it? Yeah, that's what I want to know. That's what I'm asking you. Isn't that the way it's expressing? It's happening? Who for? Well, at the moment, for me.